It’s time to take back our schools

http://wbztv.com/video/?id=90267@wbz.dayport.com

Yesterday at my son’s school, there was an assembly to recognize the seniors.  During that assembly, a member of the Yarmouth Police Department was giving a speech to honor the seniors who had chosen to enlist in the military upon graduation and during that speech, a teacher displayed a sign which read “End War.”  While the National Anthem was being played and everyone rose with their right hands over their hearts, she held up a Peace sign instead.  As if this sort of anti-war protest isn’t inappropriate enough on public school grounds, during school hours, at an important school event, the real travesty was when everyone in the school stood to give a standing ovation to these six brave young men and women, and these two idiot teachers sat down and refused to applaud.

The sign reads "End War"

Spencer sent me a text message immediately to express how angry and upset this made him.  Once I got the entire story from him, I called the school principal to discuss the event.  I was told, in essence, that the school does not condone these two teachers’ actions and that they will be weighing their options and they will deal with it internally.  I told the principal that after listening to my son come home for the last six years, since middle school, telling me story after story about teachers who were using their classrooms as platforms to further their personal political agendas, this was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me and that I would be contacting the media.  He suggested I call the Superintendent of schools, which I next did.  I had a rather lengthy conversation with her and although she agreed with me entirely in principle, she indicated that the situation would be dealt with by the principal.  I explained that I would be contacting the media and that with the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District looking to the taxpayers for yet another budget override within the month, I hoped that perhaps the administrators of these schools might find the motivation to respond more strenuously to the actions of their teachers when it brings such negative public scrutiny to the district and puts the district’s goals at risk.

The Superintendent spent a great deal of time and effort trying to talk me out of going to the media.

My next call was to the Cape Cod Times, our ridiculously liberal rag of a local newspaper, and I left a message with someone at the newsroom.  Ironically, the only story that I’ve found thus far today in the paper is about a silly prank pulled by a small number of juniors against the seniors – typical, silly kid stuff.

Next, I sent an email to WBZ TV, the CBS affiliate in Boston.  Late in the afternoon, I received a phone call from Beth Germano, a reporter for WBZ that they were on their way to the Cape and would like to interview me.  I gave her the names of the teachers, the principal and the Superintendent.  WBZ stopped by to interview the teacher first – and you can watch a portion of that interview from the link above – and then went to the local middle school to interview two of the seniors who were being honored, a freshman who was present at the assembly, the principal and me.  The piece was only going to be one minute and thirty seconds long, so my interview was not shown.

After seeing the story aired and hearing the teacher’s words and the principal’s words – I am even more incensed by the whole thing.  What happened yesterday was appalling, inappropriate, disrespectful and proved without question that my tax dollars are paying two public servants who openly abuse their trusted positions of authority with our children.  The fall-out proves that my tax dollars are also paying the administrators who “cannot guarantee that disciplinary action will be taken against these teachers.”

But the other parts of the story were not told and I feel that there is much more wrong with what happened yesterday than the obvious inappropriateness of these teachers’ actions.

There is one basic tenet that the public school systems in this country are founded on which is being violated on a daily, rampant basis and no one is willing to expose this dirty, little secret because it furthers the interests of the administration as well.  In this country, every child is entitled to earn an education in a neutral environment, free from discrimination.  The point is argued continuously and consistently all around the nation – but only when it suits the administration to do so.  When it’s a question of “separation of church and state” or gay rights or any number of other topics, these teachers and administrators wave their flag of neutrality like a banner, but when it comes to remaining neutral about voicing and demonstrating their personal political agendas (which will pay their salary and provide more and more protection and benefits for them, and them alone), then it’s a matter of the First Amendment of the Constitution.

The hypocrisy has to stop and we have to find a way to take our schools back.

No child should ever have to walk the halls of a public school (which is paid for by the child’s parents’ tax dollars) and be concerned that even one teacher may judge him, disapprove of him, or God forbid – which is what happened here yesterday – publicly shun him for having the courage, pride and honor to choose to serve this country and defend that teacher’s right to have an opposing opinion to his choice.

I too will defend these teachers’ rights to have their opinions and to express their opinions openly until the day I die.  But they are not entitled, they do not have the right to do it on public school grounds, when they are being paid to be public servants.

Teachers hold trusted positions of authority and we teach our children to respect their teachers and to trust and have faith in them.  We believe that we are sending our children to a school which will provide a safe, neutral environment.  We expect our teachers to teach our children and impart knowledge and facts in various subjects via a specific curriculum.  It is the basic tenet of neutrality that I vehemently support in the public school systems.  It infuriates me to know that it is being blatantly and rampantly violated each and every day.  Yesterday, the violation of this tenet was egregious, disrespectful, poorly timed, inappropriate and the teachers who had the unmitigated gall to perpetrate it should be held accountable for such abuse of their positions.  And if the school administrators do not have the gumption to do so, I believe they are equally responsible.

These six seniors had one opportunity to be honored and recognized by their peers and by their role models.  They had one day and one event which was dedicated to them.  These two selfish imbeciles took it upon themselves to steal this time and the spotlight away from these young people.  In three months, these two women will have every opportunity (after all, they only work 180 days a year!!!!) to exercise their right to protest the war on their time as they wish, but these six young men and women will be learning the skills needed to defend their right to do so.  And next year, when my taxes will still be paying the salaries of these two worthless, selfish PUBLIC SERVANTS, they will have the opportunity to attend the senior assembly of another graduating class and these six young men and women may well be under fire and fighting to survive in a foreign land, with nothing more than a distant memory of a day when they were to be honored for their courage, but it was stolen by these teachers.

I hope Ms. Marybeth Verani and Ms. Adeline Koscher are terribly proud of themselves. How cowardly to take advantage of their positions and steal the spotlight away from the students in their charge.  And they will surely be rewarded by the school administration with a continued paycheck and a pat on the back for a job well done.

When will we find a way to take our schools back and bring back the principles that our forefathers intended?  There is no valor in hiding behind the First Amendment only when it suits your purposes.  Freedom of speech is a powerful thing, and I intend to exercise mine – at top volume.

187 thoughts on “It’s time to take back our schools

  1. Expressed well, Susan! Don’t let the issue die. Write a letter to the editor of the paper, send a column to your local news. This is a matter that should be made known…..Good luck!

  2. Thank you Anne! It’s good to know that I have the support of the “general masses.” It’s crazy stuff, but it incenses me to know that it goes on all over the country and we all just feel powerless to have a voice. I feel like I have an obligation to my son to speak loudly!

  3. I think you should get a media coverage of Monday’s school day…. everyones wearing support our troops shirts.

    • I’m so proud of our kids and thrilled that they are showing their support. Sadly, the administration and these two teachers will likely see it as having accomplished what the two teachers wished to do – which was supposedly to “start an open dialog.”

      • RE: “Open dialogue”

        Ugh!

        If I had a nickel for every time a teacher used the excuses of “open dialogue” or “different perspectives” or “academic freedom” when they’re called on preaching not teaching, I’d own Manhattan. I’ve had a couple administrators use these terms as well when I’ve complained.

        The problem with these terms is that they are fundamentally dishonest. For example – we would not allow (nor should we) a representative of the KKK to speak to students to advocate his position, although it would certainly provide “perspective” and start “dialogue.”

        For more on the fallacy of “academic freedom,” I recommend William F. Buckley’s seminal book God an Man at Yale.

        To better understand people like these two teachers, I recommend The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness by Lyle H. Rossiter. Most people like these two teachers have psychological issues and they unfortunately use the classroom to manifest the symptoms.

  4. ok well did u no tht im gettin yelled at cuz i dont have the same opinion as the other students? in tht pic, u see the girl wearing the grey sweats? thts me. i saw the whole thing.
    all the students on facebook and texting me are trying for me the change my opinion about this, im not standing for the teacher or students, im standing up for my opnion. im will not b wearing a support our troops tshirt on mon, imma wear a peace sign shirt. bucz i can and bcuz i want too.
    im not getting into this mess or choosing sides.
    this whole situation is bring broken peace to all.

    • Caitlin – You keep standing up for what you believe in! You are a student and, as such, your freedom of speech rights are entirely protected in and out of school. There is nothing wrong with having a different opinion than your classmates. My issue with these teachers is that they are public servants and have no business abusing public school grounds/classrooms to further their personal political opinions.

      • “You are a student and, as such, your freedom of speech rights are entirely protected in and out of school.”

        I didn’t realize you were a fiction writer as well, Susan!

        Students absolutely do not have a right to free speech during school hours. Ken Jenks will tell you that himself; he’s certainly told many a student those exact words!

        Ask especially any student who wanted to decorate their polyester cap and gown! You’re not even free to choose what you wear under your gown during the ceremony!

      • There are obviously restrictions to a student’s right to free speech within the confines of avoiding disruption and such – and this is widely accepted and understood. After all, these are children and it is tantamount that order is maintained and that a pedogogical atmosphere is upheld. Administrators readily – as you point out – are willing to toe the line on this issue with students and I am advocating they hold the teachers [public servants] to a higher standard.

  5. I’ve forwarded this and the wbz everywhere I can think of and hope it goes viral.

    I’m a teacher (MA for 10 years and now in NH) AND a veteran.

    THANK YOU for calling attention to these idiots – the “teachers”AND the spineless administrators. People like this have infested the public ed system and I frequently implore parents and taxpayers to do exactly what you have done.

    I have complained for years, but get the brush off. Only PARENTS, TAXPAYERS, and VOTERS get their attention.

    I am proud to say that my political views are a mystery to my students. In fact, most of them think I’m liberal LOL (To them nice/reasonable = liberal).

    I was, however, once reprimanded for having a couple pictures of Ronald Reagan (no words or advocacy) in my room. A liberal teacher had complained.

    PLEASE keep up the heat!

    • Wow, Peter. You must be on the endangered species list! A Republican teacher – and one who keeps his political opinions out of the classroom to boot! LOL

      I intend to keep at this until it gets national attention. I know that what happened at this assembly is egregiously inappropriate and it was perpetrated by just two teachers – but there is a bigger problem which has obviously fostered an atmosphere in the schools which made the teachers confident that their actions would be readily tolerated. And that is what should be addressed.

      Thank you for your support and for providing a neutral environment in your classrooms. Keep up the good work. We need more teachers like you.

  6. Thank you sooo much! This really needed to be said, as a graduate senior of the 2010 DY class I was utterly shocked to see those two teachers show that much disrespect. I was personally glad not to see those two teachers at graduation the following day.I take pride in the underclassmen for taking a stand on this issue by wearing “Support our troops” shirts monday and I wish I could be there with them! I can only picture how torn the 6 brave students of our class were seeing disrespect from their own teachers. What they did was like a slap in their faces and should not have been done especially when we are told to follow our dreams and that we can make a difference. I wish nothing but the best for my 6 classmates and i know they will truly make a difference and leave their mark on the world.

    • Thank you Katie, for your supportive words here. I am proud of the students at DY for doing what they can to show their support as well. Students’ freedom of speech rights are well protected in or out of school, so I would strongly abdicate that they stand up for their beliefs – whether they are for or against the topic – as long as it is peaceful and not damaging to other students. I didn’t know that the teachers were not at the graduation yesterday, but I did notice that the school removed every yellow ribbon from the trees on the school grounds. These teachers owe the six students who were being honored a genuine apology, as does the school if the administration does nothing to discipline them. The very fact that the teachers chose to do this shows such a profound lack of judgment that they obviously should not be trusted to teach our children.

  7. Thank you for taking a stand on this issue, Susan. I’m a graduate of DY, my sister, Tanner, is a current student and my brother, Kehan, is also a graduate, currently serving our country in Afghanistan. When my sister told me about the assembly I was beyond apalled. I’m a teacher, and I have political views – strong ones, at that. But I would never, ever use my school as avenue to share those views – as an educator, I am in a position of authority, and it would be inappropriate and unfair to abuse that position by forcing my political agenda on the students I’m supposed to be educating. I have encouraged and facilitated many political (and religious, and ethical) discussions in my classroom, but I have stayed out of them – because that’s my job.

    Thank you again for standing up not only for our brave students entering the military, but also for all students and their right to an unbiased education.

    • You are exactly the type of teacher we need more of – and I know that there are a lot of great teachers in the public school system who honor and respect the responsibilities that come with their positions. It is obvious that our particular district has far too long tolerated such abuses of teachers’ positions and these teachers were comfortable or confident enough to take these actions because they work each day in an atmosphere that abdicates it. Keep up the good work and I thank your brother for his service to this country. May he make it back to his home safe and in one piece.

  8. Have you sent this story over to WFXT as well? I’ve included the link to their news tip line as well.

    I know that they, like WBZ, are monitored for advertising metrics in that market, so they would be an important exposure for your story.

    Good luck, and good scalp hunting. 😉

    • Thank you for the link. I was going to spend some time today finding email addresses and tip lines for all the major networks. You just saved me a bit of time!

  9. During DY’s senior last assembly I got a text from my best friends little sister, Lizzie Xiarhos. Her older brother, my best friend, was killed in action this past summer on July 23rd, 09 in Afghanistan. He had Verani as a teacher. I was told that she also told her class that it was “Nick’s fault” that he died because she tried warning him not to enlist. I heard about her actions before the school day and last assembly was even over. I also wrote a letter to the principle and vice princple expressing my opinion. The feedback I got back from the vice principle basically showed me that she did not take me seriously, maybe because i am a former student at DY and even though I have already graduated college… she probably just looks at me as just a kid. I will be writing the Cape Cod Times as well. Thank you for going to the media about this. Something must be done and I hope they get fired.. If you want to see what I sent to the principle and what was said back, send me your email address

    • Thank you for your comment, Abby. I too knew Nick and I know his family and have felt so terrible for what they must be feeling about all of this. I had the opportunity to talk to Nick’s dad on Friday while I waited to be interviewed by WBZ. I would be interested in seeing the letter exchange you had and you may email it to me at ssnabbtt@gmail.com.

      My issue with the school and these teachers is not specifically about these teachers’ anti-war viewpoints (although I abhor them), but that they are violating the basic tenet of providing an unbiased education to the students. That any teacher would say that Nick’s death was his own fault offends me on a cellular level.

      She has no business teaching.

  10. Keep up the great work Susan.

    Though I am not myself a vet, I am the widow of a Navy Sailor and the Mom of a son who will never meet his hero father. I was a teacher and I abhor what teaching has become. To be a teacher – and have that calling – is a great gift and responsibility. Next to parents, teachers are one of the biggest influences on children and the formation of their moral character.

    When you squander that responsibility, you are not only throwing your integrity away, but you risk harming young hearts and minds. These two women do not deserve the title “teacher”.

    God bless you and your efforts.
    Kim S (Texas)

  11. I don’t feel safe anymore in our school. And I think that’s one of the biggest problems. I feel like now with my every decision I am judged and pressured. A school should be a safe place where teachers and peers are with you all the time. If kids are more mature then teachers, there is a problem. She is ‘welcoming’ this but she really isn’t because she ripped off all the signs. Wait til she can’t rip off our shirts?

    • I’d like to see all the kids where t-shirts that say “I am entitled to an unbiased education” on one side and “Support our Troops” on the other side. Your rights to freedom of speech are well protected and I encourage you to exercise them in a peaceful, appropriate manner.

  12. At the time of these reports, I don’t think that Mr. Jenks or Administration had the time to digest or do anything about this situation. It happened Friday, the day before graduation day. As the mother of a student in the Class of 2010, I was glad that they devoted their time to the graduation ceremonies of these wonderful students. This was their time.

    • You are absolutely right and I urged the media people who I spoke with not to do anything that would detract from these seniors’ graduation day. I am glad to know that Ms. Verani and Ms. Koscher were not present at the graduation ceremony as well. However, Mr. Jenks and the Superintendent were told that I would be taking this to the media and when Mr. Jenks was interviewed he stated that he believed that Ms. Verani sincerely wished to open a dialogue about this but that the classroom would be a better place to do so. He also stated that he can’t promise that disciplinary action would be taken against these teachers. The very fact that he thinks the classroom is an appropriate place for her to espouse her anti-war opinions proves my point. It shouldn’t take time to digest the situation to know that this violates the basic tenet upon which our public school systems are founded and that he would make such a statement on camera is frightening beyond comprehension to me. I am profoundly proud of our students for supporting each other – especially the six seniors who were supposed to be honored on Friday at the assembly – and I wish them all the very best in all of their endeavors. I feel obligated to my son to show him that one voice and one individual exercising the right to freedom of speech can be heard and can make a difference. I hope your child’s graduation was wonderful and I’m glad nothing detracted from it.

    • True. However, they are responsible for creating/permitting an environment where teacherS (emphasis on plural) feel comfortable doing something like this AND then defending it on television.

      Considering all the facts and parties involved (Including the infamous Massachusetts Teachers Association), I think a reasonable expectation for a consequence is that the teachers be FORMALLY and PUBLICLY rebuked by the School Board. Additionally, language needs to be added to (or clarified) district policy regarding teacher conduct and political advocacy.

      Parents/taxpayers need to make sure the phones of school board members are ringing.

      I wouldn’t bother with the principal or even the superintendent. Their interest is in making this go away – not doing the right thing.

      • Indeed. And I will be willing to bet that these two teachers will not be present for the remainder of the year. This way, the administration appears to have disciplined them and they may avoid the possibility for a further maelstrom of media attention and scrutiny that may occur against these two teachers. The point I want to continue to press forward is that what these two teachers did was absurdly wrong – but they did it because an atmosphere of tolerance and acceptance has been fostered in the schools and that there are a large number of other teachers who likewise abuse their positions of authority by violating our children’s rights to earn an unbiased education.

  13. Thanks for bringing this to people’s attention. For someone who has been on both sides of this it’s not surprising but so few parents and even fewer of those who support public education with their tax dollars know that these things occur. And it’s getting worse.

    Back when I was a militant Leftist/Feminist/you name it, I decided to leave academia to teach high school. I. along with many undergraduates I had had as a graduate teaching assistant, knew that was the place to build the revolution. We could teach the kids our political philosophy and have them spread it. It was the classic Gramscian “march through the institutions” and it was working.

    Thankfully, my plans never came to fruition, being interrupted by life, but my former comrades are still going strong, even to the point of denigrating their students and ruining their day.

    Thanks to the six young men and women going off to serve, my prayers will be with your and your families.

    • It is this type of indoctrination into one particular political viewpoint that is so tremendously frightening to me. I intend to pursue this voraciously until it gets national attention and I hope that ultimately my voice will somehow make a difference.

  14. If you go to the wbz site on the article, look at the comments, I literally argued with some idiot for about 2 hours on why this was wrong. You can really see the other side of this when you read Tosatel’s post. I’ve tried my best but theres no getting through to incompetent people.

    • Thanks for the heads-up about the comments to the article. Toastel is an idiot. Come to think of it, maybe Toastel is Ms. Verani or Ms. Koscher!

      • Haha thats what I was thinking! Thanks for looking at it. I’ll tell you I’ll definitely be going in tomorrow with my Support our Troops t-shirt.

      • I’d like to see the kids wearing t-shirts that say “I am entitled to an unbiased education” on one side and “Support our Troops” on the other side. But I will bet that Verani and Koscher will not be at school for the remainder of the year anyway because then the administration can appear to have disciplined them and they can hope to avoid the disruption that may occur if they are there. We’ll see, but I am not letting this drop. It’s not an anti-war or pro-war issue – it’s an issue of violating the kids’ rights to an education in a neutral environment.

  15. Hi Susan,

    I don’t know you, but I love you!!! Thank you so much for everything you are doing about this! My daughter is Ashley Jacob, one the students who is going into the Marine Corps. I was completely outraged and shocked when I heard about this! I quite literally was shaking with anger when I was informed about it! I will always say, I honestly don’t care if someone doesn’t support the war,but you damn well always support the troops! And if that teacher honestly said it was Nicks fault that he died, then based on that alone she should be fired! How disgraceful to say something like that about a fallen soldier, and one who has touched many hearts. I never knew Nick, and barely know his family, but I was there on rt 28 the day he came home, and joined in on the procession to the cemetary. It still brings tears to my eyes on the support our community showed those days, and this teacher is tarnishing that! Anyway, thank you again for this, and also want to thank Ethan as he really gave his best against that bozo on the other article!

    Forever in gratitude!

    Holly Jacob – VERY proud mother of Ashley Jacob! 🙂

    • Holly – My response was exactly the same as yours when I got my son’s text message. I was so angry I was shaking and couldn’t control the tears. It is incomprehensible to me that not only did these two teachers show such a profound lack of judgment, but that the principal has stated on camera that the classroom is a better place to open her dialogue about the topic! We have gotten so far away from the principle of an unbiased education that it is pathetic. I am glad to have the opportunity to tell Ashley and you that I – and nearly everyone else who I have heard from on this topic – am so enormously proud of Ashley’s choice to serve this great country and I will be forever indebted to her and the other brave soldiers like her who have made such a courageous choice. Please tell Ashley for me that she is my hero. Ms. Verani and Ms. Koscher need to have their jobs handed to them on a platter. I will be attending the town meeting on the Budget Override issue and will be making my opinions known there as well. The idea that my hard-earned tax dollars may likely continue to pay the salaries of these idiots, let alone vote in an override to give them a raise, is something I simply cannot stomach.

      • Hi Susan! I definitely will pass along your sentiments to Ashley! I too am indebted to her and every other person who chooses to serve their country versus going to college. Yes, education is very important and should never be minimized, but making the decision to serve your country, especially when your country is at war and you very well know you will likely be deployed, should absolutely be applauded and recognized. I put your blog up on my facebook and will send to Ash too and see if she will post it on hers. I am so very grateful to you for doing this! The sad thing is before this incident, Mrs Koscher was one of Ash’s favorite teachers at DY, and now she says she can’t even look at her in her face. 😦

        Thank you again Susan!

      • No student should have to look into the face of either of these teachers, nor any teacher who shows the profound lack of judgment to perpetrate such selfish and foolish acts. I’m trying to get this story covered by Fox News, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly, or any number of other national outlets. I’ve spent a good deal of the day sending a link to my blog to tip lines for every major news agency in the country. Thanks for spreading the word with me.

  16. I personally support our troops and my son graduated from West Point Military Academy and he is currently deployed to Afghanistan. My personal views are that we need to end wars as a means of resolving conflict, primarily because they no longer work to resolve conflictt. And I support the rights of individuals and teachers to publicly state their views. The actions described may have been in poor taste and ill mannered, but I am strongly against a requirement that teachers only impart neutral views on everything.

    • If you are against the “requirement” that teachers only impart neutral views on everything, then you are opposed to our entire public school system. This is not just a whim of mine, nor is it just the opinion of one parent – it is the longstanding principle upon which our public schools are founded. It is supported by the courts in this country, the ACLU and the legislation. My issue against these teachers and the administration is not one of anti-war or pro-military – it is one of the rights of every child being violated rampantly in public schools all over this country.

    • “I support the right of individuals and teachers to publicly state their views.”

      Teachers are different from “individuals” because we are in a position of authority in our classrooms and in our schools. When we’re on the job, we are not, to our students, just another person on the street who might have a different opinion. Students are taught throughout their entire education to listen to their teachers, that what we say is true. Because of this, we have a responsibility to not abuse this power – there is a fine line between education and indoctrination, and that line is crossed when teachers bring opinion, not facts, into the classroom. Teachers have every right to have, and share, their opinions in public, I agree with you on that – but not in school.

      • Ashby – This is exactly the point that I have so passionately been making throughout this process. Thank you for being the type of responsible teacher we need more of! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

  17. Thank you so much for posting this! My sister told me about this and I was outraged. I will be following up with this and making some phone calls myself! Thanks again for making people aware of the event.

    • The more outrage the better. My son has been telling me about so many of his teachers trying to spread their political viewpoints in the classroom for the past six years and I have always used those situations as “teaching moments” (words borrowed from Verani, only used appropriately!) with him to teach him about politics and that you can’t always believe what you hear – even if it comes from a teacher. Every year when the budget override comes up for vote, these teachers spew their rhetoric about parents voting to “cut the budget” – and there has never been a vote to CUT the budget, only to maintain the increase to the school’s funding as budgeted or to override the budget and give the school even more money.

  18. I’m commenting here as an outsider, so apologies if I have missed some facts.

    The teachers’ action does seem inappropriate and surprisingly, but not necessarily cowardly. It can take courage to take a stand against the prevailing wisdom and majority view – especially when it could mean vilification in the media and and a risk to personal job security.

    Also – the supportive view towards military service was being backed by the overwhelming majority of those present, and by the speaker. It was a public demonstration of pride and support for students choosing to serve in the military. A small protest does not undermine the huge weight of opinion on the other side.

    In fact, it makes the show of support all the more genuine. The United States is, hopefully, not one of those places where all must toe the official line – be it liberal or conservative. By tolerating dissenting views, however annoying, you show how genuine is the support for your side of the argument. Everyone is free to state their position – almost all agreed with you.

    You could be proud to live in a country/society where people can dissent – especially when the dissenters in this case are so few they make you look tolerant (assuming you are), without posing a threat.

    Just a thought. What do you make of it?

    • I consider it cowardly because they are furthering their political agenda in an environment of children. Children run the risk of getting in trouble for disrespecting a teacher and let’s not forget – they are still children – who do not yet have the right to vote and they are a very captive audience to these demonstrations. And my biggest point, my biggest bone of contention is what you have missed. I strongly, strenuously, vehemently support the fact that public schools are to be neutral and unbiased. When schools made the decision to stop allowing children to sing Christmas carols at holiday recitals and no longer display Christmas trees and stop the teachers from saying “Merry Christmas” – they wave the flag of neutrality like a banner. As sad as that makes me, I have supported it because I so vehemently believe in the principle that a school should be a neutral environment. This is no different. And it is not about having a different opinion than Verani’s about the war. Her espousing her personal political agenda has NO place in a public school. I continue to say that I will defend her right to have such opinions and to express them – but not when she is performing a role as a public servant and she is abusing her position to influence young, developing minds. That is just wrong on every level.

      You’ll not find anyone more tolerant of differing opinions than me. And no one is prouder to be an American than I am.

      I understand your points and you make them eloquently, but you miss the main point I am trying to make. Public school is not the place for her political agenda.

    • Good job getting the word out. Ethan, you’re a fine young man and you should feel very proud of yourself for committing to express yourself this way in public forums. I’m sorry you took such guff from the idiot who was posting to the WBZ article. I reported his comments as offensive when he turned to personally attacking you and Ashley. You and kids like you make my heart swell with pride. My son is taking the ACLU article to school tomorrow and if we can get copies made of it beforehand, he intends to spread them around the school.

  19. “No child should ever have to walk the halls of a public school (which is paid for by the child’s parents’ tax dollars) and be concerned that even one teacher may judge him, disapprove of him, or God forbid – which is what happened here yesterday – publicly shun him for having the courage, pride and honor to choose to serve this country and defend that teacher’s right to have an opposing opinion to his choice.”

    I’m not seeing a correlation here between the teachers sitting down and the “public shunning” of children. Most teachers, regardless of their political affiliations, are adult enough not to judge children on their beliefs; since said beliefs are usually byproducts of their upbringing.

    When teaching I never said the Pledge of Allegiance, nor did I cover my heart. My students didn’t have to either, as long as they remained respectful of those who chose to.

    • Again, I implore you to seek the opinions of the six students who were being recognized because each and every one of them feels completely shunned. I know because I’ve spoken with a couple of them. A teacher’s right to freedom of speech is not protected when they are acting in the role of public servant. They can’t just say anything they choose, any time they wish. How would this conversation be going if a teacher stood up in front of her class each day and said a prayer aloud? Or perhaps got down on a mat to perform a Muslim prayer each day? It is during those discussions that the schools wave their flags of neutrality – but when it is a show of political viewpoint that supports their cause, they hide behind the First Amendment. You can’t have it both ways.

    • I don’t require my students to say the pledge either, but I do require them to stand and be respectful. But that’s exactly the point, isn’t it? We’re not saying these teachers should have stood up and yelled “go war! Just that they should have showed the same respect to those six students as you require your students to show during the pledge – stand, clap, and demonstrate that while you may disagree with the politics, you support the students.

  20. Thank you very much Susan. This whole thing really offends me. A lot of my close friends and family were and still are heavily involved in the military and law enforcement. It’s just not right for this to happen and I’m to do all I can to get all of this, everywhere, to stop once and for all. Others and I will be doing a public showing of OUR respect for the military tomorrow before school in front of D-Y. We hope to show people the respect that EVERYONE deserves, and we won’t stop until those teachers are disciplined. Thank you again.

  21. Being a student at DY for almost 3 years now, I’ve been subject to many political agenda’s, however none to be as severe as the one displayed on friday. Often times I go into my english class looking to watch a movie or perhaps discuss some philosophy shown by our recent book, but is far too often distrubed by an Al Roker paper, or Obama’s new law. Being a strong conservative i feel uncomfortable being put in a position where these one sided opinions are being pushed on me and my peers, it is time something is done, we live in a country where we are free to form our own opinions and to express them, but not to brainwash or force/push those opnions.

  22. This was posted on facebook, and I could not believe it when I read it. Its disgusting that two people, nevermind TEACHERS, would bring their personal beliefs into a situation such as that. Is it really too much these days that we ask you to show support for young men and women who would willingly give their lives to support this beautiful country? You don’t like war? Fine. On your own time, do what you feel you need to do to get that message across. A school event is not the time and place for such movement. I think these ladies need to put themselves in the shoes of the 6 students they publicly disrespected and APOLOGIZE.

  23. I understand the need for neutrality in the schools-but wasnt the very act of the police dept publicly supporting these students’ choice to go to war a violation of that neutrality?
    I’m not excusing the teachers-i don’t think the police dept should have been there in the first place. What about the anti war students at the assembly? Weren’t their rights being violated too?

    • The officer who made the presentation is the school police officer. He works every day at the school and the kids all know him as such. In a way, it was perhaps even more appropriate for him to do the speech to honor these students than a member of the school staff. This was not about “pro-military” – this was about six seniors whose choice to serve our country in a time of war took courage and honor. The police officer who spoke to honor them did not give a speech which supported war. He spoke to support these six seniors. And the six seniors’ classmates welcomed the opportunity to recognize them for their choice.

    • Not really Ellen. This ceremony is not to show support for the war. Rather to show respect to the students friends and peers who are now going to fight for our country. These young kids love there country and the school feels that this is not a political thing, to love the country. It is a moral thing. Therefore this is neutral. This is because everyone goes to war. . Liberals, conservatives, democrats, and republicans all alike are in the military. The war is war, not a division of groups, but a unification of groups in order to provide the freedom of everyone. This include the teachers holding the sign saying to stop it.

    • Ellen –

      I think you are missing the point.

      As the saying goes “There is a time and a place for everything.”

      This was neither.

      I’m a teacher who does not care for President Obama.

      Let’s say student is presented with a citation at a school assembly from the White House. Is this the time for me, being paid at that moment by the taxpayers and presumably the parents of that student, to stand up with some sort of anti-Obama poster? Absolutlely not.

      For these two teachers, like many lefty types, the protest was about them and their need to feel relevent – not the students.

      Regardless of political point of view, their behavior was thoroughly unprofessional and they should be severely and publicly reprimanded.

    • The police dept was not “publicly supporting these students’ choice to go to war.” They were publicly supporting these students’ choice to join the military. The armed forces respond to natural disasters, provide peace time support to areas in conflict, and act as rescuers in crisis situations. I am willing to bet that these six students did not all join the military with the specific goal to “join the war in Afghanistan.” It’s about service.

      And I don’t understand how the anti-war students’ rights could possibly be violated in this situation. That’s just ridiculous.

  24. these two teachers have been doing this type of bs for
    a couple of years and getting away with it, as the proud father
    of a 2008 dy grad and navy seabee soon to be deployed to afghanistan in the fall, i am outraged that these teachers can use
    senior assembly as a political platfom,my daughter also a dy
    grad is starting her masters in elementary education and was a
    close friend fallen hero nick xairhos., she to is outraged.
    i have two sons soon to be seniors and one son soon to be junior
    in dy high school they will not be attending any of those two
    teachers for the remainder of the school year. freedom of speach is not free, it been paid for in the blood and lives of
    our service men and women.ther is a time and a place for everything, try yellihg fire in a movie theater and see what would happen to you

    • That’s right Dave. I personally thank your son and every serviceman for the sacrifices they make/made. This is not an issue of simply anti-war versus pro-military – this is an issue of public servants not having the right to free speech when it is on the taxpayers’ dime. And at the very base level, these two teachers have shown such a profound lack of judgment that they should be fired. They have no business holding positions of authority with kids and being given the [continued] opportunity to abuse their positions by indoctrinating our children into their biased political viewpoints. I’m doing my level best to get national attention over this. Stay tuned because I’m not done with it yet. Thanks for voicing your support and our prayers and thoughts will be with you and your family for your brave son!

    • Good job Spencer! This is exactly what people need to understand about this issue. I am not abdicating neutrality in the schools based on my personal opinion – but on the basic tenet and principle and legislation that has been upheld in this country consistently. This is not an anti-war versus pro-military issue. This is just what administrators and teachers need to be informed about.

  25. susan,

    I hear where youa re coming from and understand how their actions could have upset you on the day where these students were to be honored for joing the military. But to say that these two teachers “stole their moment away”, I believe you are wrong. If anything, by creating such a media storm with this, you have taken the focus off the positive notes of that day and forced them onto a single, minor, all be it negative piece of the day.

    I am a DY graduate and have gone through most of the DY system. When the war began I was only halfway through high school, and of all the teachers I had, I never once heard anybody bad-mouth or belittle anybody who was thinking of joing the service or who already had done so. I do recall even discussing with Ms. Koscher my idea of joining the Marines after graduation, and she didnt throw a peace sign in my face or tell me I would die and it would be my fault. Even if she had, its her opinion to say so and all I could do is to ask for her support or for her to say nothing at all. And I salute those who have gone or are going into the service, keep up the good work.

    Teachers should be allowed to express their opinion, just like any of the students are allowed to do. It stimiulates open discussion and we can better understand each other. If some people change their opinion based on the teachings, thats fine. But many will just write the teacher off and forget the whole thing by the bell at the end of the day.

    So I must ask, what would you have done with these teachers? Fire them? You make the comment that teachers only work 180 days a year, but they only get paid for those 180 days and its not a fantastic salary. I know plenty of people who are teachers that have to work one or two jobs in the summer to stay afloat.

    Yes, the two holding up ‘end war’ signs and peace signs may have not been the right thing to do, but getting rid of anybody or anything that doesnt support what you want is not right either.

    • It is not me who took the attention away from the seniors. These two teachers showed the profound lack of judgment to do so. And you are incorrect to say that “teachers should be allowed to express their opinion”. They are allowed to do so just as every American is allowed to do – when they are not representing the public school. Even the ACLU readily supports my point. Open discussion can be fostered in a classroom – as long as the teacher is not taking sides. It is an egregious abuse of position of authority for a teacher to try to sway young, developing minds to their political opinions. This is not an issue of anti-war versus pro-military. If these teachers chose to get down on mats and perform Muslim prayers in the classroom, they would be heartily rebuked by the administrators under the name of neutrality and this is no different.

      You miss my primary point if you believe I am upset because of the views they were expressing. I am upset that the school has obviously fostered an atmosphere which gave these teachers the confidence to feel their inappropriate demonstration would be tolerated.

    • It is hearing from other teachers who understand and agree with the principle of an unbiased education that makes me feel a bit better about this situation. Thank you for what you do.

  26. I’m sure you saw today’s demonstration, Susan. We all hope and are trying our best to rid this crap from our school, and everyone elses.

      • I haven’t seen any pics Peter. But check out Facebook and you’ll see some amazing support by these amazing young kids. My son is making copies of the ACLU article that I printed and he’s handing it out to as many people at school as he can and there is a group “Ms. Verani and Ms. Koscher Should be Reprimanded for Their Actions” group. Plus, I have posted to Ann Coulter’s Grassroots forum and it’s starting to get a tiny bit of notice. I also found a post to The Daily Show’s Story Ideas forum – and although the guy got most of the information incorrect – it’s a start. Lots of other places are posting about it too: Masscops, Northeastshooters, CapeCodToday – to name a few.

    • I did Ethan and you rock! I am so proud of the students at DY for showing their support and for standing up for their beliefs. Unlike teachers, you all DO have the right to freedom of speech! I will be attending the School Committee meeting Thursday night at 7:30 at Station Ave Elementary School (no coincidence I’m sure that they rescheduled the meeting so that few would know and would miss it) and I will have my say. I have an extremely strong and valid point to make that they cannot argue with so I hope to have every opportunity to make it.

  27. Susan, thank you so much for standing up and making this known! You have my support, please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.I am a Dennis resident and 2 daughters that graduated from DY.
    God bless our troops!

    • Thank you Bonnie! The school district has moved the next School Committee meeting to this Thursday night (no coincidence here I’m sure, as moving it will ensure less attendees, I would assume) and I have every intention of having my say. And whenever the next Budget Override meeting is in Dennis or Yarmouth, we all need to attend and make it known that we have no intention of voting for an override that will provide a raise for these two teachers and for an administration that doesn’t have the spine to take a stand against these types of rampant violations of our children’s rights to receive an unbiased education.

      • Ooooo. Very good question Sarah. I honestly do not know how I will vote on the override. Outside of this particular issue (and I’m trying to be really honest here), I feel that the school’s funds are grossly mismanaged. But I also admit that I do not know all the ins and outs of how the town’s finances work with the schools and I try to be careful not to be presumptuous. I strenuously disagree with the basic premise of unions in this country today. I believe they have long outlived their purpose and I cast a great deal of blame at the teachers unions for the general discontent and resentment of the public about our teachers and school districts and the massive financial drain on every community which struggles to support their members. It seems to me that the financial resources it takes to pay teachers the salaries which are guaranteed by the unions for the lives of tenured teachers is ridiculously exorbitant and unrealistic. So, truthfully, it is a complicated issue for me. Perhaps it is an emotional reaction – but I can make a $150,000 per year argument to support it – but I sure would feel better about voting for an override if I knew not a penny was going to teachers whose performance and judgment is positively abhorrent to everything I believe in. Is that an answer to your question? I’m not sure.

      • I would caution you to be careful about essentially punishing a district full of good teachers based on the actions of two clearly bad ones. As a teacher myself, and the wife of a teacher, I have watched many wonderful educators leave the field because they simply couldn’t afford to be in it anymore due to pay cuts, pay increase freezes, and salaries that generally did not even keep up with inflation. My district lost 86 people this year (39 of them full-time teachers) because the jobs had to be cut – this has left us with enormous classes, no resources, and some very, very tired teachers.

        I am absolutely not advising anyone to vote in an uneducated way, and if money is mismanaged then by all means, educate yourself and try to change it. Please just remember that it’s your kids who will eventually suffer when towns stop supporting their schools.

      • The issue of the budget override is hotly debated every year in these two towns so I’m not surprised that it comes up when an issue like this one is mishandled by the school administrators (whether it is because their hands are tied – or because “due process” is such that there is only so much that can be done). Our tenured teachers here (teachers who have “professional status”) receive step increases each year. And across the country, we are seeing that towns simply cannot sustain such step increases and the pensions of their teachers. I definitely do not profess to have the answers on the issue – but I do see a problem and when a school can no longer afford to purchase books that are necessary for the students, but teachers’ salaries continue to go up every year, what is a taxpayer supposed to do? It’s not an uncomplicated issue for sure. It is more than a little frustrating to taxpayers to see the budget increase every year, which means our taxes go up every year, and to see teachers’ and administrators’ salaries go up every year – but student programs and books get cut. Meanwhile, many of us in the private sector are not getting raises every year. It is a positive inevitability that the system will break. These particular teachers make far above the mean income for an individual in these two towns – and they have the opportunity to work in the private sector for the other half of the year as well. I can’t speak to other towns and districts and their financial issues or how they are handled in those districts, but here, I just don’t know how our towns can sustain the school’s finances.

        I agree that there are many, many wonderful teachers and I applaud them. And as much as possible, although I understand the connection many people made to the budget override, I tried to keep the focus here on the issue at hand – which is neutrality in the schools.

    • OH MY GOD!!!!!

      I am a veteran and I am not ashamed to say that that put tears in my eyes.

      God Bless the students of DY and their obviously magnificent parents!!!

      Susan – I was actually please with the principal’s remarks during the news story. Did you catch a glimpse of his tie? A not-so-subtle message. I think he’s doing the best he can at this point.

      This may wind up being a very good thing for the school community.

      • Thank you, Peter, your support is greatly appreciated. I’m sure my parents would thank you too ;D

      • These students have risen to the occasion and beyond and I couldn’t be more proud of them!

        As for Mr. Jenks, it still irks me that he “doesn’t deny their freedom of speech” and the fact that the Vice Principal was unable to show me, in the faculty handbook, where the administration has spelled out the requirement that they remain neutral and unbiased on public school grounds is equally disturbing. I asked if this principle is a frequent topic of staff meetings and was told they can only address these issues if they are made aware of them. I suggested that perhaps it is not prudent for the administration to place such a low priority on such an important principle and only rely on the opportunity to address it only when a student tells a parent their right to an unbiased education has been violated (which many kids don’t even realize is against policy) and then only when that parent takes the time to complain about it.

        I think Mr. Jenks is doing damage control and knows how important PR is in the community at a time when the budget override is coming up for a vote.

        It will definitely be a good thing for the school – and we’re making good headway – but we’re not there yet. And if these two teachers are still on the payroll, then we have definitely not done enough.

  28. I am a retired deputy police chief and retired from the US Air Force Reserve (with my first seven years as a Marine). I am a member of a large Marine social networking site. This incident was brought to the attention of the forum today. The link to the TV interview was provided.

    E-mail addresses of the interviewed teacher, the principal, and district superintendent were also posted to the forum. Members are already writing e-mails expressing their disgust at the interruption of the senior’s assembly. Many members, including myself, are combat veterans, some of more than one war.

    While I am advocate of free speech, there are common sense limits as to time and place, particularly as they apply to public schools. The assembly was not the proper venue for an anti-war protest by teaching staff.

    Teachers are not paid to regale their students with their personal political opinions. They are paid to teach, not proselytize.

    Go get ’em!

    Semper Fidelis,
    Zulu36

    • First, thank you Zulu for your service to this great country. I am doing my level best to get this out there and get national attention because I’m sure this is not the only school district in this country who has forgotten that public schools are expected and required to provide a neutral environment for our kids. The more coverage, the better.

  29. Hi Susan, It’s Brenda from back in Illinois. Your brother posted this on his facebook page and I will too to keep carrying on your message. I am a support both Warriors Watch and Patriot Guard, two motorcycle organizations who support our troops. You can be sure this is going to get around.

    As for young Miss Caitlin, dear, if you were really being neutral, you wouldnt be wearing a peace t-shirt either. You would just wear some everyday clothes that dont stand out either way. Who are you fooling? We all want peace, but we have to support those who are willing to do what it take to get it. If you like your freedom, including the freedom of speech, thank a Veteran. Because if we didnt fight for it back then, we wouldnt have it now.

    Love ya girl, keep up the good work!

    • Thanks Brenda for spreading the word! I defend their right to freedom of speech and their right to express it – but not when they are on the taxpayers’ dime and when they are charged with positions of influence and authority over the developing minds of our youth.

  30. Me and Ethan both went through the school, the english and history wing, hanging up ACLU papers stating how teachers don’t have the right to freedom of speech rights, needless to say, most of them were taken down by the teachers later that day.

  31. There is a difference between supporting the war and supporting our troops. One has to do with politics and the other compassion and respect. Those students deserved such.

    – 2008 graduate, Navy Seabee

    • Thanks for your service! I take it seriously and I am forever indebted to all servicemen and servicewomen. My brother served in the Navy for twenty years.

  32. Susan it was great talking to you tonight with Dan. After the meeting on Thursday I’d like to go back on the show and talk to him again. That was a fantastic show and it was great to have Holly on there as well. Thanks for getting this everyone, Susan.

    • Great to hear from you too, Ethan! I will definitely keep Dan up on what goes on and maybe we can continue this again as things develop. You’ve done a great job staying on this important subject all weekend and I applaud your efforts!

  33. as a graduate of DY (class of ’03) and a major supporter of our troops (my brother and both grandfathers were active military) i am extremely upset by this! I remember not too long ago when in those very halls people were congratulated and respected by their peers and teachers for making such a brave and selfless choice. In fact, one of the assistant principals was an active military man and he was loved and respected by all… what is this world coming to? this story is one more reason i am glad i am not raising a child on cape cod… keep up the good fight!!

    • Thanks for sharing your perspective. I think it’s been very clear that the very large majority of teachers, administrators and students heartily support our troops and these seniors’ decision to enlist – and that is a great thing that has come of this situation. The other issue, which is more important to me and which we can do something about, is putting in place clear and precise policies which prohibit teachers from abusing their positions and classrooms as platforms to further their political agendas. And, without question, the school administrators need to make a very clear statement by terminating the employment of these two teachers.

      • i completely agree that there are serious boundaries that need to be addressed. I think that politics should have no place in a classroom (except for maybe in a debate class) and there is no reason why these teachers should be allowed to continue teaching these children after such a gross and disrespectful display. fortunately, in my school career i never experienced this sort of thing, but it is seriously making me consider homeschooling if the administrations in this state can’t get control over the people we are entrusting the minds of children to! I have to say that I am very impressed with the number of young people who have chosen to take a stand against these women!

      • As am I! I respect these students tremendously. And certainly, a couple of bad apples shouldn’t spoil the whole bushel. But the fact that the administration has fostered an atmosphere of tolerance and acceptance which abdicated these teachers’ confidence in perpetrating such an egregiously inappropriate demonstration is of grave concern. It’s what I am trying so vigilantly to address.

  34. Good work, Ma’am!
    Here in San Antonio we cannot do much to influence your local events, but please know your efforts are appreciated by many all over our Nation!
    Illegitimi non carborundum est!
    whraglyn

    • Thanks for the link Peter. I understand the Cape Cod Times finally published something too – but I haven’t found the motivation to look at it. Can you say 4 days late and a dollar short? I can’t believe I can get this story covered by Fox News before I could get the Cape Cod Times to show an interest!

  35. I think we need to try to remember that these two teachers don’t make up the entire school. There are many wonderful teachers at DY and there is a quality education to be had there, as was shown by our recently graduated seniors. One student will be attending Harvard, another UPenn! Others are attending the likes of BC, BU, Northeastern, Sacred Heart, Loyola, WPI, Assumption, Tufts, and the list goes on! The students are involved in all types of community service projects, organizations, clubs, etc….Let’s not forget to support those students that will continue to inhabit the halls of DY after all this dies down. This incident, although disturbing, should not overshadow the fact that all of the students require a good education to be successful in whatever paths they choose for their future. I feel concerned when I hear cries on the news media for citizens to deliberately punish the school district by not funding the schools because of the actions of a few. As a parent, I despised hearing that ALL students were denied a priviledge because of the undesirable actions of a small few! This is similar. Please do not connect this incident with the budget crisis of the district.

    • I hear your point, I really do. And I agree that we have wonderful students who are getting good educations. Every public school system has its issues and there will always be parents who would like to see certain things change. Frankly, that’s what is great about the way we do things in this country. The voice of an outraged parent who experienced a “straw that broke the camel’s back” incident [me] can be heard loud and clear and can bring national attention to an issue which is of concern throughout this country. The tolerance for the indoctrination of our youth is long past the point of “acceptable” and I did not enter into this campaign without obtaining information from the Principal, the Superintendent and the Vice Principal first. Not one of them could produce a clear policy which prohibits teachers [public servants] from imposing their political agendas on kids on public school grounds when they are the taxpayers’ dime. It is the kids’ educations that I feel is suffering when such blatant and rampant disregard for neutrality is being sacrificed only when it is convenient or when it suits the interests of the administration, the teachers’ union and most of the teachers.

      And although I understand your concern over this incident being tied to the budget override, I hope you can see that this furthers my point that these teachers showed such a profound lack of judgment that they have proven they are not equipped to handle the responsibility of performing the role of “teacher” with integrity. There is great resentment against school teachers who poor-mouth on a regular basis (and I’m not saying they make a King’s ransom), but with tenure they are assured a paycheck on our dime for the rest of their lives and then they behave with such blatant disregard and disrespect for the positions they are given. Meanwhile, we citizens are struggling to make ends meet (and we work every work day, all year long) and watch our taxes increase year after year. These teachers should have showed – if not better regard for the students they disrespected – than for the “hand that feeds them”.

      Shame on them. Shame on the administration if they are still on the payroll next year. Shame, shame, shame on the Teachers Union if the administration’s hands are tied and we all must pay the price.

      That is from where the outrage and resentment is borne.

      • Administration’s hands may very well be tied, and I really hope you do understand that their wishes and desires may or may not be held up by the Union. I completely agree with your statements and your position, but that doesn’t mean I want to see the total ruination of the school district….because of the poor judgement, and undue influence, of a couple of teachers. You can’t put all of the faculty and staff in the same bell jar as those two. There are excellent teachers in the district, many of whom also have to work in the summer to make ends meet, as well. Additionally, you can’t sacrifice our students’ educational opportunities because of them either. Hopefully, language will be found in their contracts and policies, etc., to reflect the outcome you desire, but please let’s not forget that we have children who need to walk the halls of DY and hold their heads up high that they are DY Dolphins and be proud of their school! I feel certain that this incident has definitely served a purpose and everyone is now on notice that they all need to be putting the kids first!!!

      • I like your perspective and I respect your comments. Know that no one, least of all me, wishes for the “total ruination” of the school district. It is the scrutiny of the public and the accountability to the taxpayers that are the most useful and powerful tools available to elicit necessary change. I certainly do not deny that there are great teachers in our district. But, having kept my mouth shut for the past six years – which was not an effective way of dealing with the breaches of this important tenet – I cannot apologize for now vigilantly taking whatever steps I feel are necessary to effect change. I think this situation has proven to the students at DY that they have SO MUCH to be proud of! Look at how these students have responded and pulled together with great compassion, integrity, intelligence and unity! My goodness, I can’t think of anything for which they could be prouder.

  36. As a current student of DY, I’m upset by the actions of these teachers as well. When the event occurred, I was outraged, as well as my friend sitting next to me who has a brother currently serving. Trust me, I get where the anger comes from. But regardless, the media outcry is a little much. I fully support your actions to have this incident be publicized locally, and it certainly is. But to say you’d like to take this nationally scares me. For the next 2 weeks, as well as the next 2 years, I’ll be walking around the halls of DY, and quite frankly, it’s embarrassing. I know you have to understand this on some level as you’re son’s going to be here next year as well. Yes, it is a big deal, but please think about the students who are still attending DY and how all of this media affects us and our education as well as our remaining time at DY. How are we supposed to take pride in our school when it’s being picked at, whether on a local or national level?

    Please don’t attack me for missing the point or something like that, because I get it, I do. On Monday I wore my own Support Our Troops shirt and yellow ribbon. But I just believe the media coverage is ridiculous. It was a misjudged decision, and although controversial, we don’t need to make DY an open forum for national commentary.

    • You are absolutely entitled to your opinion and I applaud your standing up for it. It is a perspective I will certainly take into consideration. I would not “attack you” for missing the point; however, it is the rights of the students and, specifically my son, for whom I am speaking. My outrage is not about the military or supporting the troops. I’m sorry that is the issue which keeps being raised. I would be just as outraged if these teachers (and other teachers in their classrooms) were attempting to further a conservative political agenda or a religious agenda. And there is no reason you should feel that you can’t take pride in your school. DY is a good school and is full of smart kids who have shown amazing compassion, integrity, intelligence and “moxy”! You have eloquently expressed your position here and I’m impressed with that. Truly, you have my respect.

  37. It was great to have this on Howie’s show today. Many many people listened to it and I’m really glad we got to talk about it there as well. Keep up the good work!

  38. I have read somewhere on these post that teachers are paid only a pitance and work only half a year but they are paid for half a year. This is correct. These two teacher’s only make $75,000 per year. We couldnt afford to have them work the whole year. Ask yourself how many people do you know on the Cape that make 75k per year. The override is to fund their raises and step increases. They dont care what you think. If they get remrimanded the union will grieve it and they will see money at the end of this. These teachers are laughing at us all. I wonder if my kid would get a worse education if they only made 60k per year. Time to draw a line in the sand. No means No. Every year an over ride in this town, where is the leadership

    • Adeline Koscher: in 2009 made $72,497.59 for 180 days of work (or $50.35 per hour)
      Marybeth Verani: in 2009 made $75,271.45 for 180 days of work (or $52.27 per hour)

      How do they manage to pay their mortgages and put food on their tables?

      • how did this start on what the teachers said and did during an awards ceremony to complaining about how much they made in a year?

        if you have an issue with how much people make in a year for the work they do and how it affects the community, talk to the professional sport teams, or record companies, or world of war craft!

        enough is enough with your witch hunt on trying to get people fired. you’ve made youre point. whats next? should we start lynching people?

      • No, I do not wish to lynch anyone. I do, however, expect teachers to be held to a certain standard and when they consistently and continuously fail to meet that standard, and at the expense of those in their charge, then I expect there to be proportionate ramifications.

        Professional sports teams, record companies and World of Warcraft are not public servants paid for by taxpayers.

        Their salaries are a matter of public record. And there is a common misconception by the general public that teachers are overworked and underpaid and that, as such, they warrant special considerations and special exceptions. It certainly seems relevant to me.

  39. Also, I am a graduate student from DY and I find it very hard to take any sort of pride in my school when the only thing outsiders know about it is what you tell them on your blog.

    • I have told the truth. And I have also lauded the students of DY over and over again. There are good teachers and conscientious administrators as well. My post on my blog is about a serious deficiency in this school district which needs to be addressed. If it had been addressed fairly and effectively before, these teachers would never have perpetrated the actions that brought this about.

  40. so if you are complaining about these public servants and how much they make and how little they are worked, have you spoken to the state police or local police lately about their officers that are getting paid time and a half to work construction details? they stand and (sometimes) direct traffic yet make close to $40 per hour, and on other times they dont even get out of the car. frankly id rather have over paid teachers than over paid traffic obsticles

    • With due respect, Jeff, this is not a forum of discussion about the police officers. If you’ve read my post, I’m not complaining about what they make. I am complaining about their performance and since there is a common misconception that teachers are overworked and underpaid and, therefore, they warrant special considerations and exceptions, I felt it relevant to publish their salaries.

  41. You are right about the english teachers working only 180 days out of the year, but you are not considering everything they do in those days.

    As a teacher you have to arrive an hour or so before school and must stay to help with after school programs or helping students. So already you are there from 645am until 3pm. Now, seeing as they are both english teachers, they have to give written assignments that they must read through and grade on an individual basis. When do you think they do this? During the times they have to monitor the cafeteria? During their classes? Or maybe on their commute home? No.

    I can assure you that many teachers, especially english teachers, spend hours upon hours at home reading assignments from their students to give them proper grades.

    So yes, they work 180 calendar days in a year, yet they work on average 12 hours a day or more, and thats including the amount of time they put in during finals.

    • Verani is a history teacher. I too, am a salaried employee who must often work more than my slated 40 hours per week to adequately and competently do my job. So, I’m sorry I am unable to manifest much sympathy. I think you’ll find that most people feel that their pay far more than fairly compensates them. Again, I am not complaining about how much they are paid. I am complaining about their performance. I, like many others, am accustomed to merit-based compensation being commensurate with performance. In that light, there is great inequity here.

    • Thank you for saying this, Jeff. My mother’s an English teacher (though not at DY) and do you know how hard it is to deal with students everyday? Whether a student is having a great day or the worst day of their school year, the teacher has to put up with it, support them, and try and teach them something that day. Think you know frustration? You don’t have to deal with hundreds of moody and just as frustrated teenagers everyday. Teachers are what keeps a society, a nation, and a world running and cohesive. They should make more money than anyone for the service they provide.

      Your arguments are becoming irrelevant. Here, teachers crossed a line. We understand. With all this buzz there is no chance this will happen again, so your mission has been accomplished. Please, give it a rest. Your quest for attention for this issue is complete, I saw Fox News this morning. Congrats. Now please, stop trying to be a crusader on this ordeal.

      • Well said. Although I will continue to respond to comments posted to my blog (I’ve tried to respectfully respond to each comment because I appreciate the exchange of information and opinions which have been posted here), I have taken no further action to press this issue any further. Because these teachers have done the exact same thing in years past and because students have complained of their actions for years – with no results, I felt strongly that vast public scrutiny would be the only thing that would effect the necessary changes and proportionate disciplinary response. The issue will die on the vine on its own now. I am told there is a policy being drafted by a subcommittee of the School Committee which “relates” to this issue and that is good news. I agree with you that this firestorm of attention has ensured that something like this should never happen again at DY, and I am proud of that. It is as it should be. But this is what it took.

  42. Police and Fireman work year-round and they I’m sure have to put in extra time too. The point is name 10 jobs in Dennis or Yarmouth that pay the same. They may be worth close to that but the problem is they grow every year, notice the annual override..it is not sustainable, the education would be the same at 60/70 or 80k its a matter of what we can afford and continue to afford. The bigger issue is the teacher union who will not speak out against these teacher. The oposite they will defend them with legal costs and mark my words at the end of this they will get a settlement if they are displined. They are laugh at us all and counting the money

      • It’s not against the union contract. I don’t know if the union even has a contract with their members, per se. Perhaps a union member could address that. They sign an employment contract with the district, which I have in my possession, and it basically says that they will “conform to and carry out all laws and all lawful rules and regulations which may be enacted to the conduct of the schools and Teachers.” This is relatively vague legalese which basically leaves plenty of room for the district to impose whatever rules and regulations it wishes, as long as they are deemed “lawful”. The teachers unions defend their members vigorously and they have nearly unlimited financial resources to do so. Teachers unions all over this country contribute huge sums of money to the political party of their choice (like many other lobbyists) and they wield a fairly large amount of power. But, that is a topic for another day, perhaps! LOL

      • Teachers unions don’t have contracts. It is their job to make sure that schools are honoring their own contracts.

    • Let’s not forget, they get paid for the rest of their lives once they’re tenured and that only takes three consecutive years of employment. It’s a financial obligation that could bankrupt the most financially sound city!

  43. I am a retired teacher and I don’t think that the school venue is a place to proclaim one’s political thoughts or visions. HOWEVER, I am truly concerned about the rhetoric found on this blog. The frequent use if the word “idiot” for someone who disagrees with you is very disturbing and not helpful to a conversation or discussion. It stops one completely. I would be called an idiot by some our your supporters.
    It is very hard in this country at the present moment to have a serious discussion and to truly try to understand another point of view. We seem to have to yell at each other. I would hope in this small town, that we could do better. We are neighbors – we should work together. We have many problems in the school district and this is not a constructive way to go about business.
    It is alarming that some want to combine what these teachers did and the proposed school budget. They are two different issues and to punish the whole district and the kids because you disagree with two teacher is short sighted.
    Please let us show our students how true disagreement should be solved.

    • “Frequent”? The ONLY people I have ever called idiots on my blog are the two teachers who perpetrated this incident. I am relatively certain that – with no exception (I think, I hope) I have responded to each individual who commented on my blog in a courteous, rational, reasonable manner. I have not been disrespectful and I have been ever mindful of the issue at hand. This is a very heated, emotional issue for nearly every parent. I have been so impressed with the general tone of nearly every person who has posted their comments to my blog. I have followed other forums where the language and general tenor would curl your hair! I’m so sorry that what you took from this platform is me simply calling anyone who disagrees with me an “idiot”. I honestly feel that this particular venue has been an excellent example of how disagreement can be respectfully debated.

      • I appreciate the fact that you do respectfully respond to each post with reasoned debate, and it IS sorely lacking these days.
        I also disagree with the two teachers’ actions and I think it is absolutely not the right venue to use the kid’s assembly for their personal agenda. I also have no problem with you contacting the media. (although who knows how it will morph in their hands).
        But (yes, there is a but), I do agree that there is a fairly large amount of rhetoric. The teachers are not idiots – they acted stupidly, but they are not idiots. Also this blog seems to have evolved into an attack on the entire education system and how much teachers make and whether it’s worth it.
        Denying the override will not fix this – it will hurt the opportunities for kids. Period.
        And for the record, teachers work MUCH more than 180 days a year. Put together an involved lesson plan and see how long it takes. Summers aren’t entirely “off” and they are “on” all year.

        Again, I agree with your original premise – no politics in school (that includes Texas). And thank you again for the reasoned discourse. 🙂

      • It’s true what you say about this morphing into other issues. And I assured the Superintendent that I had no intention of tying this event and these two teachers into the budget override at the School Committee meeting.

        I had a couple of goals when I set out to write the post to my blog and to take this to the media: (1) to get clear and strong policies in place which will be vehicles for the school administrators to enforce this important basic tenet of neutrality on public school grounds; (2) to ensure that these teachers (sorry, on this I have to disagree with you – they are idiots, in my opinion) are dealt with as severely as the district’s attorneys have advised is possible; and (3) to give a voice to six seniors who were robbed of a very important time in their lives.

        First, the School Committee is making a policy. I intend to do what’s in my power to assure that it is all it needs to be. Second, with the scrutiny of the entire nation turned to this issue and this district, I respect the administrators enough to believe that they will take the most strenuous disciplinary action their attorneys advise them is possible in order to “save face” in the public eye. Third, by and large, with very, very few exceptions, our six brave men and women have been honored by the entire nation (and beyond).

        Not bad for the parent of one student.

        People tie this to the budget override because the subject of money hits each of us very hard. It’s a very personal and emotional issue. That’s why others see a connection between paying these two women’s increased salaries next year and the budget override. And it is why teachers (mostly) argue that their salaries are appropriate and that the step increases they are guaranteed have nothing to do with the schools needing more money each year.

        We all want more money in our pockets, I guess! That’s a crass way to say that, but perhaps there is a basic truth in it. The budget override vote in these two towns is the hottest issue which comes up every year and in the past several years (at least) – and likely not coincidentally since the economic environment of the entire country has denigrated – it has not passed and it has not required a huge firestorm of negative publicity over teachers’ actions to bring about that vote against it.

        If you heartily feel that the budget override is not tied to these teachers and that it should pass, then perhaps you will at least agree that these two teachers prove themselves to be “idiots” for biting the hand that feeds them (as well as because of their apparent inability to to know better than to further their own political agendas at the cost of the students in their charge).

        Right or wrong – and I’m not entirely saying either way – considering that getting the override passed is already an uphill battle with the voters in these communities and voters are just looking for a reason not to vote for it, they have, in fact, single-handedly given the district’s override the kiss of death – and it isn’t because of anything which has been said on the comments on my blog at the end of the day yesterday.

        Some will say that only negative has come from my blog and my media push – but I think a lot of good has come from it. I know that my son, for one, has learned that one voice can be heard and can make a difference in this country. And he has learned that the way to do so is to do so with integrity and credibility. I’m a little proud of that.

        Thank you very much for your thoughtful reaction.

  44. I think they are somewhat connected, the union will defend these teachers, with out a doubt. Ask them at the next school committee if they will even say anything the least bit negative about it, they won’t. They are connected because when one class of people in a small town earn so much more than the rest then they cant understand why some parents may suggest the armed forces for their children or not be completly opposed to it. They dont have the means to send their child to college like a 75k a year tenured teacher does. The union I belive will be the lasting legacy of this whole thing and will continue to argue to work less and get paid for more. If you put an ad in the paper looking for teachers with a salary of 45k you would have 100 people who would take that job, school districts are cutting all the time and its time teachers understand they can earn double the average salary in a town and expect raises every year.

    • You eloquently express the opinion of a majority of the disgruntled public, for sure. It is frustrating to see school districts struggle to pay for books and benefits for our kids, while the teachers get raises every year. I wouldn’t presume to put a higher value on the contribution of one individual in a community over another – because we all make our contributions – but there are nurses who don’t make the salaries that teachers make and they work hard, long hours dealing with incomprehensibly difficult situations every day. My issue here is an issue I believe can be solved and for which I believe we can find a solution. Overhauling the teachers unions in this country, I think, is outside the scope of my capabilities! [grin]

  45. I think you may underestimate yourself,lol. I dont think they should hold out much hope on the override this year. It just feeds the machine. I am sure they are not the only two that are pushing their opinions on student either, they are just the two we know about. What about the political pressure put on students and parents to support overrides or else. I think just one well place question at the next school committee will give us the answer. ” will the teachers union condemn the actions of these two teacher”. Pressure comes through in many ways Alert Now, parents groups, facebook but no one stops and asks is it appropriate to use children to fight a polical battle for overrides or is it right to threaten parents with a sub par education if they dont go out and “sell’ the property tax increase. You have done so much, I think just putting those questions out there will give this lasting meaning. We couldnt have gone through all this and have it just be for nothing.

    • I am flattered, truly. I cannot deny that I am proud of the length of the reach I have attained (the story made it to Canada!) and I know with certainty that if I hadn’t managed to catch the scrutiny of the national public, very little real solution would happen here. I set out with a goal to get clear, definitive policies in place which will provide a vehicle for the district administrators to finally be forced to enforce the basic tenet of neutrality – equally and without bias to the tone, subject matter, position or the content. The premise of neutrality should apply equally and objectively to all matters of political advocacy. And I set out to force the district to stop looking the other way with these two teachers. I wanted a level of public scrutiny that would require the administrators to respond with disciplinary action for these two teachers as severe as their attorneys advise them is possible. I hope they are fired and I make no apology for that, but I understand that the union may not make that possible. If they are not fired, I sincerely hope that every parent will refuse to allow their children to be in their classes. It’s the only other “dissent” I can think of which may have impact. The School Committee is drafting a policy [finally] and I will be following up on how that policy reads until I have done all that I can to ensure it is as strong as the law will allow. I don’t think our six fine young men and women who have chosen to serve this great country feel [anymore] that their peers and role models disrespect them. They have now gotten national support and recognition. The outpouring of positive encouragement and backing which has been demonstrated for these six young men and women has been phenomenal – and THAT doesn’t surprise me because I have great faith in the majority of people in this country.

      I have personally experienced exactly what you have described with my son. Each and every year that the budget override comes up for vote, teachers use their classrooms to “sell” it. I think, I hope, that this new policy will be in place and will prohibit them from doing so.

      Abolish unions next? Wow. That’s a lofty goal. I think I’ll move one mountain at a time!

  46. at lewis… for your comment “They dont have the means to send their child to college like a 75k a year tenured teacher does. ” I am not speaking on the behalf of all 6 students here, but I will speak on the behalf of my own. As a single parent, I alone make more then these teachers. Also, my daughter was a honor roll student through majority of her high school career (until senior slump kicked in) AND she was a 3 sport varsity athlete, to include being the ONLY girl on the boys lacrosse team. However ever since her freshmen year (or even before) she has expressed the desire to join the Marine Corps. So for you to generalize, as so many have also on other forums, that these kids are just joining the military as they can’t afford college or can’t get a job, you are WRONG! Ashley refused to even apply to colleges as she didn’t want anything to interfere with what she says is her “calling”. So please don’t just assume that the parents can’t pay, or the kids can’t get into college, or they can’t get a job as you do not know these kids at all. Thank you!

    • Interesting that you mention this, Holly. As I have discussed this with people all over the country, I have said over and over again that these students are intelligent students with every option in front of them. I have proudly told anyone I’ve spoken to that these are students who had options and who would have been accepted into the colleges of their choice – but that they CHOSE to serve our country. Aw shucks, must be late and I must be exhausted because it makes me all choked up. I honestly don’t think Lewis was trying to disparage any of these kids or to generalize. I think he was truly tying to make a point about the teachers’ salaries and the union protecting even the most egregiously unworthy teachers.

      • I truly hope so Susan as his words hit hard to me!! I talked to ash over and over again about going to college first, but she refused! Heck, back in the winter the cape cod times featured her in an article “In the Zone” and someone who was a West Point recruiter called us and asked us to consider ash to put an application into West Point. Now, I can honestly say I don’t think Ash has the qualifications for West Point, but for her to get that recognition was awesome 🙂 Anyway I’m getting off the point… I just saw in too many forums that kids now-a-days only join because of college expense/jobs and just want to clarify its not true!!

      • Yeah, I thought that might be at the root of your response. I understand that. Some of the forums out there have been really disrespectful and overly general. I don’t think Lewis is a bad guy and I don’t think he was specifically speaking to these six kids. I could be wrong, and if I am, I’ll let him respond to it! And it’s certainly a worthy and important fact to point out that there are many reasons our young men and women choose to serve our country – most of which are admirable, honorable, courageous ones! Personally, as I face the scary reality of having to find a way to pay for my son’s college education – the subject of salaries does hit home! But alas – a story and a topic for another day and another post!

  47. And Susan, you will be happy to know the story made it world wide….ash received an email from someone who is in Belgium!!!!

      • gobsmacked??? hahah ok though!!! like the term! Yes we were pretty amazed too when his hometown showed as belgium!! she has received a bunch of emails/friend requests on her facebook today, even within minutes of it airing on fox and friends. Its been a great exposure and can’t wait to see what happens next. 🙂

      • Goodnight Holly. Hope to see you at the School Committee meeting tomorrow night. I may need a human shield from silent “dissenters” as I leave the school! If you come, seek me out – I want to meet you in person!

  48. I wish I could be a little more articulate in the way I say my next opinion but I cant so here it is: some people are being absolutely rediculous about this whole subject and are now trying to express anger of a budget issue by tying it to these two teachers, hoping to gain more favor for their cause by uniting it with the initial one.

    As for the topic of unions, unions are there for the protection of the workers themselves. In some cases the unions do fail the general public by allowing people to act in unfavorable ways, but for the majority the union protects the worker, be it teacher, police or fire, nurse, etc etc. I did learn about the history of the unions in history class at DY and learned the positive and negative sides to them.

    So my suggestion for everybody here, stop tying the over-ride issue to the ‘end war’ issue. These two teachers have no affect on the over-ride, and most of their students are hardly old enough to vote, let alone care to on this matter. Students at this age can think for themselves and no matter what one teacher says to them, it wont change their mind if they already know whats in their heart.

    • Oh Jeff. It’s not an “end war” issue. I hear what you’re saying. I do. And I’m not necessarily tying the issue of neutrality in the public schools to the budget override. But I can certainly understand the resentment of the general public and their need/desire to find an outlet for their frustrations. There are relationships, certainly, between the amount of the school’s budget and the amount of the teachers’ salaries and, personally, I feel the frustrations of the administration in not finding the necessary funds to buy books and pay for other benefits for kids, while the teachers’ salaries continue to rise. I know my salary hasn’t gone up automatically every year. Surely, you can understand how that feels to John Q. Public, no?

      Here’s my thing: this blog, this post, is not about the budget override. I get it, and I don’t mind the topic being discussed here – but I really wish to stay on-point. No disrespect to anyone.

  49. So I guess this morning in front of the school, a woman (I’m not sure if it was a teacher) stood there and held a sign saying “Teach Peace”. I was told this by my bus driver. I am actually happy, for half of he part, about this. Just like us students did Monday, this women is doing this at the right time and place. I very much respect this. Although I do disagree 😉 Before the committee meeting tomorrow I may just go ahead and hold a sign that says: “If anything, an un-biased eduction, please.” Because teaching peace is not what us, as students, want. Because then we wouldn’t have any idea the other side (this “not” peace i guess). I want to be taught everything. NOTHING left out. Thats the teachers job. And sorry about in my last post I didn’t mean like a contract I didn’t know what to say. I meant that ACLU free speech thing.

    I was not at school this morning as I was meeting Joseph Malone, who is running for congressman, with fellow students who were outside of school on Monday. He recognized our actions and supported us. He feels the same way we do.

    • I saw the guy too. Spencer and I did not recognize him (I thought it was a man?).

      As long as it wasn’t a school employee – I suppose he has that right. Honestly, now that you mention it – I don’t know if the general public has the legal right to be on public school grounds during school hours. I’ll leave that to the school administrators. No need to stir up another firestorm, eh? LOL

      Will you speaking at the Committee meeting for your right to an unbiased education? I’m not sure if you saw other comments of mine, but the Committee is making a policy so we’ve made a difference already!

      • I did read that, and that’s great! I’ve never been to a committee meeting before so I’m not sure how it works or if I’ll be speaking. But I’ll definitely be there and showing that students care very much about this issue and we want it resolved. Most of us anyway.

      • The policy is that the public may have 3 minutes (per speaker) to speak at the beginning of the meeting. I’ll see you there!

  50. Holly my point was really mean to illustrate that property taxes and college expenses that add up for me and my family struggling to make ends meet on Cape Cod have less of an impact than if I had the ability to collect at steady 75k every year(with garenteed increases). I was generalizing that I that most people dont have that that kind of steady income. I have several family members in the service and their reasons for joining are varried some for college and some for a calling to serve. I didnt mean to offend. I was just unclear.

    • I’m not sure. I had the same problem early this morning and I had to reply via the email message I receive when there is a comment posted to the blog. If you subscribed to this comment, and received an email notification, you can just use your Reply button and it will post here.

  51. Yesterday I was speaking to a friend of mine, another DY grad, (class of ’05) and she began defending Ms. Verani (they were close when she was in school). At first I was very upset about it… and then she explained to me that DY has become a very “pro-war” school. She also mentioned to me that there have been incidents of hazing and violence towards “arabic looking” students and she kept saying “someone had to it”… i don’t know how much of this is actually true or how much of it is hippie powered propaganda, but i thought it would be worth mentioning… whether it’s an excuse or an explaination, this is what some people have been saying

  52. and here comes the backlash and support for those teachers(LTE and facebook), sad but in 2 months everyone will be with these teachers and nothing will change, they have the system on their side. School Committee will only pay this lip service and the unions will grieve any policy changes but that wont get any press

    • WBZ 1030 just called me and wants me to let them know how the meeting goes tonight.

      I would like to think that the district will do as much as they can. I genuinely believe that the Superintendent wants to. It will be a matter, I’m sure, of what the school’s attorneys advise them to do. I don’t know the School Committee members, but I know they are working on a policy and I will be following up on how that policy is worded and such.

      I’ve fought the good fight and I think I’ve done as much as one could have hoped. We’ll see how it all shakes out.

  53. I find it quite interesting that you oppose these teachers standing for their belief in peace and yet you have no problem with the entire school conforming to a system that supports war as though that is ok. These teachers ought not to have to stand against their personal belief for the sake of conformity wherever they are. I so disagree that in school teachers are not allowed to be individuals. What is that? Schooling equals conformity!?

    I would be deeply insulted if I had to sit through an honoring of stupid boys stupidly joining a force for a war that is stupid! Why would I honor that!? Makes no sense!

    As for throwing a temper tantrum about these teachers, sounds like you need to deal with some personal issues you have about not feeling free to be yourself. Go ahead, I dare you to look inward, instead of being an ass.

    • First and foremost, Anna, let me clarify what you apparently missed in my blog post and what is the main point. I do not oppose these teachers standing for their belief in peace – I oppose them doing so while they are employed as public servants. They are not required to “conform” their beliefs to anyone’s other than their own. They are, however, required not to express those beliefs on public school grounds when they are being paid by the taxpayers as public servants. All they needed to do was keep their opinions to themselves and support the graduating seniors and their choices – whether they agree with them philosophically or not. It was not about pro-military versus anti-war – it was about the graduating seniors.

      Teachers – like each and every one of us – are “individuals” and they are not required to “conform” to anything except the principle of neutrality in the schools when they are being paid to be teachers. They are to teach, not preach. They are to educate, not indoctrinate. They are teach how to think, not what to think.

      As for your obvious naivete about anyone honoring a war, I believe you would be very hard-pressed to find anyone who loves and/or “honors” war. The soldiers themselves would far prefer not to have to go to war. What is deeply insulting is the opinion that the young men and women are “stupid” because they made the choice to serve our country’s military out of love, pride, courage and honor for our country and to protect your right and these teachers’ right (on their own time) to have such opinions. My desire to expose what these teachers did had NOTHING to do with the position they took – you completely and utterly missed the point – it was that they openly expressed their opinion while on public school grounds, while being paid as public servants to a captive audience of students. THAT is what makes less than NO sense.

      And Anna, again your inexperience and immaturity are never more evident than when you damage your own credibility by turning to a personal attack simply because you do not understand the issue or agree with another person’s view. For you do not know me and you certainly have no way of knowing whether I do “not [feel] free to be [my]self.” This was not a temper tantrum about these teachers – it was exposing a well-known and too often abuse and violation of the basic tenet of neutrality in the public schools in this district, which should never be tolerated – regardless on which side of the political aisle the bias falls.

      After all, if I didn’t feel “free to be myself”, I would likely have never expressed my inner, true feelings and opinions in a completely public and open forum in this blog and then brought national and international attention to it. I am not threatened by an opinion which differs from my own, as so many others seem to be. Again, it is not the opposing opinion that I condemn – it is that I chose to take a firm stance against the blatant violation of the basic tenet of neutrality in our public schools. A basic tenet, by the way, which has been upheld over and over again by the United States Supreme Court.

      Thank you for sharing your views, Anna.

  54. Dear Susan,

    I didn’t ‘miss’ anything.

    I, am so over the basic tenets as well as those who become mortified over their violations.

    I, don’t agree with the stance that teachers should be neutral in school, or that anyone should be anywhere. This is a system that is not working because it was wrong to begin with. Any system that asks a person to forget who they are in order to work for them, is wrong!

    And this is my stance, my outcry! That we live in a society that wants people to be free, as long as they abide by conformist rules. As long as they kill themselves daily to live in a structure that does not condone personal freedom and liberty.

    That is wrong.

    So wrong. It hurts us when we aren’t able to be ourselves or feel free to be ourselves, literally! And it hurts all of us as a society.

    I do not support our public school systems.

    I do not support our government as it is, because it has forgotten what it stands for.

    I do not support our civilians being puppets and getting in the army. It is stupid! I don’t know why people keep defending it.

    I do not support your outrage.

    I do not support anyone who stands up to suppress bold acts of freedom from a system!

    Our systems do not support personal freedom, and that is that. I don’t support anyone working in a system where they have to deal with people like you who think they have to abide by a system. I support them finding that job that is free. Making new schools. Standing up to the government.

    It’s time to evolve! Evolve past the system of the united states of america as we know it. Not go back to how it was. That is ridiculous. Go forward, move on to schools that support freedom, that allow people to discuss personal issues, because that is the stuff of life, not conformity. Have teachers who discuss what they believe so that kids can learn to discuss differences and understand what they themselves believe.

    I’m not thrilled that you’ve made this outcry. I was online looking for information on how to claim our schools back from the federal government which is continuing to poison our schools with their requirements that constrict and force people to compromise- when I came across this, I thought, you need to change the title, it totally contradicts. Evolution is not about looking for ways to constrict, it’s about adapting to new ways. The new way is that teachers should not have to compromise their integrity to be teachers.

    I would have used this opportunity to talk to my child, to discuss with my child that people have strong views and that they are willing to take risks for them, or just to discuss it, that there are different kinds of people, those who conform and those who don’t, those who see things differently, etc (like women in Muslim countries who don’t want to wear facial coverings). . .many other things to discuss. I mean, what an opportunity to had. But instead you chose to teach your son to criticize people who speak up and to make a big deal about it.

    This is a free country, but our system is limiting our freedom daily. I say, choose to act towards freedom, true freedom, not condensed freedom.

    Peace Susan
    with all love, for I am not in anger when I write, simply my honest feelings about an issue I have long thought on.

    Anna

    • Anna,

      Now THAT was a beautifully, passionately stated position! And it makes me smile. I do not disagree that there is much in our country (government and schools alike) which needs to be fixed and which needs to evolve with the changes in the world. I suspect you and I may be on opposing sides of many of the things which we feel need to change but I am invigorated and encouraged by the fact that you are so passionate about your ideals. There is much you don’t know about this particular district which brought me to the place where I chose to take it no longer and I chose to make my voice heard. Given your strong feelings, I would think you would heartily applaud my efforts.

      It isn’t that I wish to “go back” to how things were before. Not by a long shot. But what you don’t know (or at least I assume you don’t unless you are familiar with this school district and with these teachers and our administrators) is that for years they have used their classrooms as platforms to further their own personal political agendas. They start when the kids are in grade school, telling them to tell their parents who to vote for and promoting one-sided political positions. One day, when my son was in sixth grade, he came home from school telling me that all the teachers told them (in each class) that their parents all need to vote against “budget cuts” or all of the sports, music and libraries would cease to exist. I used that experience to explain to him (with FACTS) that there were no budget cuts being voted on and that, in fact, the school’s budget was more the next year than the prior year but that it wasn’t as high as the Superintendent wanted it to be, even though enrollment was dropping and measurable performance indicators were less than state averages. I looked into my child’s confused eyes – as though I had just revealed that there was no Santa Claus – as he asked me, “So, all the teachers are lying just to get us to make our parents vote the way they want?”

      Yes, Anna, I used it as a teachable moment and there were many, many more over the years that followed. I love a healthy debate and I’m quite good at it. I am proud to say that my son is now also a healthy debater and he stands for what he believes in. I did not teach my son to criticize people who have a different opinion than he has – I taught him to do research and get facts and come to his own conclusions and then to stand and fight for what is right. He is, in fact, the one who located the case law (Mayer v. Monroe County) which supports the fact that teachers are not allowed to abuse their positions of trusted authority over their captive audiences of students (children) to indoctrinate them into their personal political viewpoints.

      It was never just because I love war and I am all about conformity and these teachers scare me with their “crazy leftist new-wave ideas” (their opinions have been around for 50 years – nothing new or evolved there) – it was because I was completely fed up with the school administration allowing teachers to abuse their classrooms like Gramscian’s “March Through the Institutions”. I was fed up with teachers preaching one side of every political election and political issue and shunning the opinions which kids expressed when they don’t agree with their own. That’s not freedom, Anna, that is abuse of power, position, trust and authority.

      I am not a religious person (not organized religion anyway) for the exact reasons you express – I cannot seem to grasp and get behind some human being standing up and preaching his interpretation of a book written by humans about some other-worldly God which is interpreted differently by every single human who reads it. And if my son were coming home from school every day telling me that his teachers were telling him he were going to go to this horrible place called “hell” because he doesn’t believe what they believe – I would storm the administration who allows it as if my life depended on it.

      Just because what these teachers do (and it’s not just holding up these signs at a terribly inappropriate time) is about politics – it is no less acceptable to me. The students in any public school should feel FREE to develop, support and express their opinions at all times – provided it is not inflammatory, disruptive or hurtful to others – but that will never happen when ONE side of every issue is always shoved down their throats by teachers they are taught to trust and believe in.

      Do you see what I’m saying and why it incenses me so much? This was about the issues I raise in this blog and in this comment reply. This was never about whether or not I LOVE or HONOR war.

      My brother served in the Navy through Desert Storm and I know countless parents whose young sons and daughters are serving right now and are either in foreign countries fighting against atrocities that are not our own or may be shipped there to do so. Do I agree with the wars we’re in? I don’t know. The world feels like a pretty scary place to me these days and I know that sitting down over cookies and milk and saying “Can’t we all just get along?” doesn’t stop the atrocities. I know that you cannot believe everything you hear from the ridiculously slanted media. I know that you cannot believe everything that you find on the internet. I certainly do not proclaim to have the answers. I am not a war-monger. I’ve never met one. No one loves war. But there are certainly people who do not value life and, in fact, feel their greatest act of faith in their God is to take the life of anyone who doesn’t believe what they believe. Those people have been acting on those beliefs and their threat grows daily. They don’t care about peace and they are not holding peace rallies. They are training to kill.

      If you read through all of my comment replies on this thread and others – you will see that I did my best to stay on topic here regarding this not being about pro-military versus anti-war. It is about teachers having a responsibility to their students, to our children, to foster freedom of thought and creative ideas. You are wrong if you think that can be done by teachers shoving their personal opinions down their throats. Don’t forget who the adults are and that schools are not to be about the adults. Let them burn their bras on Saturdays and I’ll support their right to do so – but not at the cost of a child’s freedom. We would never allow a teacher to come to a school wearing a white hood and preaching KKK beliefs because we find that so abhorrent (most of us anyway) and because we understand the influence that teachers have over our children. That is an abuse of power. It’s a delicate line for sure, Anna, but many teachers take their positions very seriously and they don’t cross that line. I met a lot of them on this blog.

      Anyway, I really, truly do appreciate a good debate and I very much applaud your passion for what you believe in. I hope you can see after a small amount of discussion that I was not being an ass, or a conformist, or a war-monger. I too, was standing up for what I believe to be right and I taught my son the most valuable lesson of all: that one voice can be heard and can make a difference.

      Be well.

  55. Hi there,

    Sorry for commenting on something that happened months ago, but I’m just now hearing about it.
    Whether one is pro or anti the current wars is irrelevant. These teachers actions were absolutely inappropriate for this rally. Anywhere outside of the school I’d have no issues.
    I’m not surprised though. I’m a DY graduate (class of ’98). I had Ms. Verani for 10th grade history and from day one she was a biased, horrible teacher.
    On day one she let the class know that since the outside world was biased and sexist against women, that her class would always treat women better than men (reverse sexism). Complaining to the principals did nothing except bring more heat down on me and the other student who complained.

    She’s a miserable woman and should not be teaching kids.

    • You and I are of the same mind on this issue. I tried very hard to keep the issue on point – that political bias (whichever position being expressed) has no place in the classroom. The principal expressed on camera that this teacher is well-known for her political beliefs! It’s appalling. I’ve heard similar stories to the one you tell – and some which are much worse – and she has since been recognized by some local [ridiculous] organization for her courage in speaking against war/for peace and has had a lengthy article in a Barnstable paper printed. A policy against political bias in the classroom has finally been put in place. The problem is that kids need to understand that a teachers’ right to freedom of speech must be subjogated in the classroom to the principle of neutrality and they need to know that any breach of it should be reported. Then parents need to do their part to demand appropriate response.

      My son is a senior this year and I should have been complaining about this issue for years, but I was convinced that my complaints would simply fall on deaf ears. I brought the attention of the nation to what happened and I feel fairly certain that, at the very least, Verani will NOT pull another stunt like this again. I don’t expect her particular brand of leopard to change its spots – but I know that people will be watching when she displays those spots in the future.

      I’ve been told by several students that she actually told a class, in reference to the tragic death of a local Marine graduate of DY, that it was his own fault he died!

      As far as I’m concerned – she should be flogged publicly for such continuous, consistent and horrendous abuse of her authority and power over the captive audience of her students. She is the biggest waste of $76,000 per year that this town spends!

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